Logistics

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NO, Wialon Logistic IS NOT a gps tracker.

If you not want to sell real HW for each vehicle, you need to install / use both gpstag and wialon logistics on one device.

Wolf.

You are right shmi, i am sometimes to direct ;-)

I thought long about this and why there is no tracker inside and why i need to connect a driver to an vehicle etc.

But i think the way it is organised now by Wialon is perfect:

1.) Its a logistic application for logistic operations --> use it for transport vehicle and or cars.
2.) gps tracking on simple smartphone uses a lot of energy if you want to have exact tracking. Wialon logistics app does not use huge amount of power and can be used just as a nornal app
3.) our experience with "give employe a smartphone to track him" resulted in "ohh we can block gpstag from receiving location data just by a click" and "ohh sorry i deleted the app" and installation of task managers etc. Thats why all of our customers do use HW in the car which can not be easy interupted in working ;-)
4.) from sales point of view i still believe that its easier to sell additional hardware if no gps tracking in app.

Wolf.
p.s. missing you at the cebit!

Hi Alan,

i think you do something wrong...

For Wialon Logistics you need to create a DRIVER with phonenumber and key=the password you later enter in the Wialon Logistics.
So having the Phonenumber as phonenumber of a UNIT and of a DRIVER should be possible!

And dont forgett to BIND the Driver to a UNIT, otherwise you will get (now) a error message!

Wolf.

FleetPursuit
Phone is unique parameter for all Wialon items
Try to leave phone in unit setting empty and set it only for driver

good to know that!

Now the application to review. Next week should appear in App Store.

That will be great, looking to trial with a couple of clients! Feedback from a couple of our clients was good, only thing they suggested as a need was more than just "today & tomorrow" - needs a minimum of a week for ideal planning. Potentially puts too much restrictions on staff by constantly having to do daily when they know deliveries a week ahead.

Now app available for iOS users https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wialon- … 1&mt=8

yeah, we also would like to set different dates (and also check/organize different dates).

today/tomorrow is not flexible enough

Wolf --> going to play with german version on IOS hihi

Hi,

Need a bit of help, clarification regarding importing orders.

We created a "test" list of orders, with Address (not coordinates), Order, Client, Time from, Time to and Comments - imported this and the list and correct locations were shown.

Set columns as required in Logistics - Address first.

Selected Save - and had a "pop-up" saying total number incorrect, in this case "All of them" then created an incorrect csv file to be saved.

Tried removing columns and adding deleting data all came back incorrect. Have attached a screenshot and csv.

What are we missing - we have done as we thought was correct as per documentation....

Cheers,
Alan.

FleetPursuit
Check date format in settings or make screenshot of it please

FleetPursuit
Please note that you use 'mm' both for months and minutes, its incorrect.
Right date format is dd.MM.yyyy HH:mm, you always can check it in user settings in Wialon Hosting

Cannot really resolve the caution:

Choose columns with addresses or coordinates first.

In .csv file, the aadress is set to first column.

We had same then just changed our csv layout to make it easier - after importing csv click ok when it comes up then look above your list at the top in Logistics app it is here that you set the fields. That's what we did, asside from our time/date issue worked fine.

Alan.

We recommend with utf8 or cp125*
If you provide sample file - we'll test it

shmi,

We are not able to generate reports. Had field tested today with several orders now completed.

Looked to see how the reports operate - selected "unit" and interval  "today" then execute -> "There are no items" pops up....?

Alan.

Thanks shmi, that worked fine.

Hello Partners

Here are some client’s recommendations for improving Wialon Logistics

1. Is it drop or pickup – that would clarify it for the driver if that information is displayed with every order
2. Under every truck insert the quadrat meters and under order how much every order takes room, so it will be showed after every order how much space there is available on that truck. That will make shore that truck is not overloaded with orders and logistic personal will be notified accordingly.
3.  Orders should be numbered based when they need to drop off so that order that needs to be delivered to first client wound be loaded to the truck first but last.
4. Is it ADR or temperature sensitive cargo so they wound end up in same truck.
5. For a milk pickup ring to insert how big is tank so if orders exceeds the tank capacity then logistic personal will be notified accordingly
6. For diesel delivery ring insert the tank size, so if order exceeds tank capacity then logistic personal can use odder truck for some clients.
7.  Digital signature option on delivery so whole delivery process can be paper free. More info here www.profittools.net/pod-digital-signature-capture
8. You have orders and import orders, but missing order history.  You should be able to see order history and pick for example yesterday’s order for client X. Click on it and make dublicate. Now just change the date and woala you have new order with seconds.
Currently very time consuming to enter every day the same order again and again and again
9. If you have filled up order form for client X and now writing same client X the system should offer to fill order form based on last order made to client X. System fills all the fields and you need to change the date and again you have new order with seconds
10. Maybe even have option to enter all your clients database so next time making order you need to type in few letters and system offers fill up order form.
All partners please add your customer’s feedbacks here regarding Wialon Logistics so Gurtam  can improve it for our customers.

+ When we plan the route it shows the estimates milage , but sometime the drivers take different routes due to road construction work / traffic etc.is there a way that Wialon logistics can indicate actual mileage as well in reports ?

+ how to plan couple of orders (maybe on same route) without returning to Warehouse something like
1.Warehouse - Pickup goods
2.Customer A - Deliver
3.Customer B - Pickup
4.Customer C - Deliver
5 Warehouse - return to warehouse.

Send notification to Customer  ( recipient)

+ Send SMS / Email to customer once the order is dispatched and Send a  to link to the customer to monitor the delivery vehicle , and disable it once the delivery is completed. ( something like Wialon Locator)
+ Notify via SMS / email when the delivery truck is in 10-5Km radius from the delivery location ( so customer can be ready to receive)
+ Notify the customer  ( SMS / Email ) once the order is delivered and accepted. or if there was any issue with the shipment(Damaged etc)

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Very good ideas, than you can use it for any kind of postal / parcel delivery service out of the box!
The only thing would be: how to create / enhance such a system in a way, that it is flexible to use also for other purposes...
It must be something like a clickable logic generator ;-)) that would be a dream.

Wolf.

FleetPursuit
Such feature already available, at least in Android app. Use long tap on marker will open dialog with list of installed navigation apps.

Thanks shmi, checked it our today and it works a treat.

aahero can you please send us an e-mail to support@gurtam.com with the details about your case?

"Hello,

We've checked on both platforms and got next results:
iOS - all working properly;
android - the list of orders not loading, passed to the developers.
When the issue will be fixed we'll notify you additionally.
Specify if you have other questions or maybe you have issue with iOS platform (version)?"

We've updated Logistic to v1.2.0

- Now you can create orders on any date (not only today and tomorrow)
- Estonian, Bosnian and French translations added
- Minor issues fixed

Ma android mobile app still not working?

Hello Gurtam

Here are some client’s recommendations for improving Wialon Logistics

1. Is it drop or pickup – that would clarify it for the driver if that information is displayed with every order
2. Under every truck insert the quadrat meters and under order how much every order takes room, so it will be showed after every order how much space there is available on that truck. That will make shore that truck is not overloaded with orders and logistic personal will be notified accordingly.
3.  Orders should be numbered based when they need to drop off so that order that needs to be delivered to first client wound be loaded to the truck first but last.
4. Is it ADR or temperature sensitive cargo so they wound end up in same truck.
5. For a milk pickup ring to insert how big is tank so if orders exceeds the tank capacity then logistic personal will be notified accordingly
6. For diesel delivery ring insert the tank size, so if order exceeds tank capacity then logistic personal can use odder truck for some clients.
7.  Digital signature option on delivery so whole delivery process can be paper free. More info here www.profittools.net/pod-digital-signature-capture
8. You have orders and import orders, but missing order history.  You should be able to see order history and pick for example yesterday’s order for client X. Click on it and make dublicate. Now just change the date and woala you have new order with seconds.
Currently very time consuming to enter every day the same order again and again and again
9. If you have filled up order form for client X and now writing same client X the system should offer to fill order form based on last order made to client X. System fills all the fields and you need to change the date and again you have new order with seconds
10. Maybe even have option to enter all your clients database so next time making order you need to type in few letters and system offers fill up order form.
11. Automatically send orders on your platform through Logistics API. Client can integrate his Website or APP with the Logistics API. Example here www.getswift.co
12. If client inserts 50 aadresses and selects 5 trucks for that job, then system should offer 5 optimized routs.

Meeting with client today and here is what they sead was missing:
1. They have 50 stores to supply, but dont want to hassel with excel every day. Want simply upload 50 stores one time and every morning pick stores from existing list (same as in Planning we can pick the uploaded orders)
2. Need to add orders to existing Routes that are Active
3. If some delivery point is missed client needs e-mail notification.

All partners please add your customer’s feedbacks here regarding Wialon Logistics so Gurtam  can improve it for our customers.

Logistics v1.3.0 is available
- Completely new reports module
- Now app supports U.S./imperial measurement systems
- Number of issues fixed

I see when looking in the Help option of phone app when it brings up the full help file it says it cane be used as a mobile tacker also.

It notes WiaTag - will it work with GPS Tag? We have a number of clients using GPS Tag and we were looking to offer them the Logistics function.

Thanks.

CarCops, good idea, makes the system again a bit more flexible

Is the ability to use as a tracker with GPS Tag available or is it only for WiaTag?

Shame, will it become available for use with GPS Tag? We have a number of clients that would potentially use Logistics with their existing GPS Tag service.

Have had a look through the WiaTag manual and it does not seem to have the messaging functionality as GPS Tag has that allows for Chatterbox, otherwise we could potentially move clients to WiaTag to resolve.

Dear,

Dynamic search engine to search for units, orders and customers.

Order Custom fields and ability to edit each field.

I have some notes that I think may be important to Wialon logistic improvements.
It would be helpful to have the ability to group orders, or have a detail of the items to be distributed to a single customer, since in most cases the companies distribute more than one product at a time.

Having a dashboard to measure the development of deliveries.
 
The algorithm should calculate in advance what time should leave the Unides the warehouse and delivery locations to meet tentatively set times.
Ability to view the geofencing created on the map, and create routes manually from the selection of Geofences pressing on which we want to visit.
An example of this can be:

A click on the geofence, select point Entrega1
Double-click on the geofence, remove delivery point selection

Hi ,

Can you explain bit more on below ,
+ SMS/ Email notification works ?  Notification will trigger N minutes in advance to the delivery destination ?
+ How does the estimated time works ? from the time the order is been distributed ? or once the vehicle leaves the Warehouse location ?
+ any possibility to trigger the delivery confirmation based on a sensor parameter ? ( like a valid RFID tag ?

Yes.
Wialon Logistics will inform a customer about courier's arrival. Notification can be sent via SMS or email.
Notification will be sent N minutes in advance of estimated arrival time. If the courier is late or outpaces his previous order's arrival time, then notification time for the next order will be shifted accordingly.

Estimated time for the first order (or warehouse) is set to the "Time from" of the first order in the route (or warehouse).
If "Time from" of the first order is over and you have "Relevant orders" checkbox activated (Settings > Planning), then the arrival time of the first order is set to the time of distribution.
The estimated arrival times for the other orders of the route are calculated basing the routing information from the map, taking into account unloading times of the orders.

It is possible the confirm or reject order from mobile application or from the web interface.
But you can implement any custom logic and confirm/reject orders via Remote API request: https://sdk.wialon.com/wiki/en/sidebar/ … der/update

To turn on column in the report you should click "Edit" button (next to "Unit report" dropdown) and check required columns "Orders' estimated mileage" and "Orders' actual mileage".
Note that "Orders' actual mileage" will be filled only after order delivery.

CarCops Autovalve
Thanks for your feedback, we'll think what can we do

Hello Gurtam

Same wants come up with more then 10 clients now.

They have stores to supply, but dont want to hassel with excel every day. Want simply enter/upload stores location one time and every morning pick stores from existing list they have to visit. Basicly like clients list. If they enter few letter then system offers from client list stores that start with thouse letters. So the order form will be filled automaticly and the whole prosess will take less time.

Hello,
New version of Logistics app is available:
- Import was changed: you can create import template which can be used as a header in the table of orders. Also you can edit one or few imported columns.
- Import from xlsx file was added
- You can add locator link in your notification template
- Some design fixes: you can see user name, time zone and exit button in new version. Also note, that order creation was moved to “Planning” tab.

FleetPursuit, Mobile application is available both for iOS and Android devices.
Yes, you can use your device with Logistics app as tracker, but note that you should change your unit's device type to WiaTag.

yes, it's correct.

timothy , click on the existing route in the "Routes" tab and you will see a "PRINT" button at the bottom of the site.

Hello Gurtam

Customer needs to see the clients names on report to make invoices. Clients name was entered in order but in reports its not shown.

There is no point to see that work is done without the info for wich customer it was done.

Currently our customer sead that report are totally useless without client name.

Thanks for your feedback.

Some of your suggestions will be available in Q4:
p. 3  - http://joxi.ru/Vm69N3Mu5qeqrZ (ru version)
p. 11 - in the mobile app will be added to push notifications - let it be for now
p. 12 - it will be able to execute report on a unit groups & driver groups.
p. 10 -  you can print routes now, http://joxi.ru/ZrJdwj1UoZYM2j (select route & press "print" button).

By other point we'll think what can we do.

Please explain points 5, 6, 7 more detailed (ROUTED & CHECK POINTS & export reports)?

Yes, we think about it, option a:
* When confirming or reject an order will be able to add a signature (button "Signature").
* Next, open the window (white screen), where the customer can enter the signature (stilus or finger).
* The entered signature is stored as a picture file and attached to the order.

What do you think?

Hello Gurtam

You have done amazing job to improve logistics with big update
https://weblog.gurtam.com/2017/02/big-l … agement-2/

Just few more things that clients constantly ask.

1. Logistics users need to generate delivery PDF after delivery is done. They need to send delivery confirmation PDF to theyr customers to prove that delivery was done. PDF needs to containe the company info who did delivery and to who they did delivery to + date, time and signature.
They can store the PDF in theyr computer as profe of delivery and send the same document to customer with invoice or send all delivery documents at the end of the month with invoice.

2. Current signatur is stored 48 hours and if there is complaine after 2-3 months then there is no profe left in the system. Solution is described in point one.

Thanks for your feedback.

The current signature is stored not only within 48 hours. It`s stored on period of storage of messages (by default 3 month). But now there is no way to see the signatures received after 48 hours. We are working on it.

Hi,

Are we doing something wrong when using the Chat function?

We are just starting to test Logistics and one thing, all is fine and looks great, however we seem to have an issue with Chat.

We select unit to send Chat message, but when we hit "send" it remains in the line it was typed in. It remains in the type message line, so if you continue a chat with driver you need to highlight and delete each time before you can add text for another message? (see image1)

The other issue we have found is that the Mobile app Notification does not show or sound alert to advise of incoming message. (yes we have activated it in settings)

Also if driver is in the Chat window of the Logistics mobile app it does not update with incoming message. They need to go back out of Chat to main screen and select again to "refresh".

Any advice? Are we doing something wrong?

We are using Android mobile and Firefox browser.

Thanks.

Hi,
yes, we confirm that there are some problems in the work of the chat.
Now we are working on a fix.

Thanks stde, good to know it's not us. :-)

New version 1.5 of Logistics Mobile is available.

What's new:

Android:
- Option to restrict access to settings. Set password to secure information and personal configuration.
- Handy images navigation. Use slider to view photos.
- New types of push-notifications. Get notifications on missed orders and unset statuses.

iOS:
- Option to restrict access to settings. Set password to secure information and personal configuration.
- New types of push-notifications. Get notifications on missed orders and unset statuses.
- Digital signature support. Confirm orders with customer signature available as an image.

I think the signature in the reports will be available in one of the following release.
Use case: http://joxi.ru/82QOw4gIBnyyrd

Thanks for feedback. We will consider your proposal.

Please,
describe the problem that the implementation of this function will help to solve?

Team- Great potential for this app.   We have a few challenges that maybe others have looked into:

1- Need a way to recycle missed deliveries into the next days/shift routing plan.  Currently I believe the only work around is to reenter all the orders data as new order. One suggestion is to allow dispatch (not mobile) editing the date field for missed deliveries.  There is no way to connect the first missed delivery with the final delivery record. We are looking at maybe using tags but very difficult. 

2- Need ability to add order to a specific route/vehicle manually after the route has begun. Ideally it would be great if it could auto sequence the order in the route and re-optimize but manual placement is common.  Currently the only way we have found to work around is to create a new single order, route it and send to the driver as new single route.       

3- On "permanent" order types need day of week option to route only on specific days. Very common where routes or jobs are scheduled by day of week.

4- We really need a solution to route multi-stops; example is when customer picks-up order and then drops off same order in another location on same day.  This is very common in expedited and third party consignee deliveries.  Also need designation for pick up vs. delivery.  Again we are playing with tags, but not an easy process.   

Thank you for any suggestions or help.

Hi ,

A suggestion for Wialon Logistics;

For each order

+ Option for the driver / warehouse officer to indicate “ Loading started”  - by pressing a Soft-button for a particular order / orders.

+ Option for the driver / warehouse officer to indicate “ Loading completed” -  by pressing a Soft-button for a particular order / orders

+ Logistics app changes the status as either  Loading started” / “ Loading completed” based on input.

+ Logistics app captures the loading started time and loading completed time and the total loading duration for each order.

Same scenario for order unloading

+ Option for the driver / warehouse officer to indicate “unloading started”  -  by pressing a Soft-button for a particular order / orders.

+ Option for the driver / warehouse officer to to indicate “ unloading completed” - by pressing a Soft-button a particular order / orders.

+ Logistics app captures the unloading started time and unloading completed time and the total unloading duration for each order.

+ Logistics app changes the status as either  Loading started” / “ Loading completed” based on driver’s input.

On Logistics app - option to filter - orders which are currently loading at a certain warehouse.

New version 1.10 of Logistics is available.

What's new:

- We’ve added an option to export a report in PDF format.
- Notifications for dispatchers. On receiving a notification, a dispatcher can now respond to it either by going to the chat with a driver to confirm the details or by clicking on the notification which will forward you to the current order in Routes mode.
- We’ve supplemented Planning tab with a “Routing source” option, allowing to choose a preferable routing provider to generate and optimize a planning route. Apart from Gurtam Maps, we’ve added a “light” type of optimization – “without routing” – which does not consider routing, e.g. it calculates the distance between orders in a straight line (Gurtam Maps are not used). You can also set an average speed to calculate approximate driving time between orders ( T = S/V + Tvisit) – total time is calculated as a sum of Torders.
- API improvements (related to orders mode). For more effective and convenient integration with third-party solutions we’ve provided an opportunity to import orders or routes with orders to the system in JSON format. Read more at LogisticsServices_en.pdf. Files in .csv and .xslx formats are also available for import.

Other improvements:

- UI improvement. Common design for buttons when selecting orders.
- Planning mode optimization: faster filtration and switching between orders.
- Filtering parameters set for “permanent” and “single” orders, warehouse, route state, report type, selected unit/driver/group are now saved. We’ve also added alerts on route deletion.
- Address search. Address search performance has been enhanced (addresses for 100 orders are defined in +/- 5 sec).

CarCops Autovalve , thanks for evaluating the work!

Explain what additional work the driver is doing?
Who creates orders (tasks) for additional work (driver or dispatcher)?
What are the properties of the additional work (time, position, description ...)?
These orders (tasks) are part of the route (participate in the optimization)? Or is it a separate task list?
What should the program control within the order(task)? (fact of the visit, fact of the fulfillment, ...)

Clarify please?

I am giving a try again with Logistics.

I have uploaded 300 orders. Some of them are in the same place.
When I tell the program to create the routes, It does seems right.

The same place is visited by many units because there is more than one order at the same place.

They are supposed to get the best route based on distance, and there is nothing better distance than 2-5 orders in the same place.

WHY I USE LOGISTICS?

Each order is a student.
Each unit is a BUS school.
The final warehouse is the School, called “Lycee”.

Result: different Buses pick up different children (like brothers) at the same house.
Example:

•    The order S0008 is located in A8 (address). BUS01 was assigned.
•    The order S0010 is located in A8 (address). BUS12 was assigned.

•    BUS10 is picking up order S0286 but it could also get S0287, S0307, S0308.

What I see, if distance and time are ok and the unit does the job, it does not look for a shorter road, optimizing the distribution.

You can see this example in the user: panama.colegiales. Order dates: MAY 6, 2017.

Please help.

Hello Gurtam

Our client is garbage company with only 5 trucks. Every truck has 200 bins to empty.
Most of them are really close as you can see from the picture.

Totally there is 1 000 bins a day to empty. Main problem is that logistic dont optimise the route and as you can see from picture then driver has to visit same place 3-4 times, but bin is just 20 meeters from last bin.

Looks like if there is big amount of orders then there is no help from logistics, but just makes things more confusing.

2. I think is also good idea to add country or region on settings so the addresses are looked only in one defined country. Currently looks addresses from around the world. That should speed up the address looking prosess also.

Look at the article in the Cleveroad blog called "Logistics app development to solve numerous issues in the Logistics sphere" - https://www.cleveroad.com/blog/logistic … ics-sphere

Thanks for you clarification. Now it became more clear.

No. I dont understand. I get 17 units with a distribution of orders (the buses capacity are different so I cannot adjust minimal distance for the optimization). What sequence are you talking about? The small icon which take the assigned orders and put them in a better way?

Simple question: why 3 orders are assigned to different units?

How is the procedure? "Random assignment -> Evaluation" ? ; "Genetic Algorithm"? ; "AI"?
For the first option you would expect a solution proportional to n! (factorial). Unless you previously calculate distances among all points and create a higher value to shorter distances?

if I run the procedure and the answer is after 5 hours, It will be fine for me!

Hello,
yes, now we are thinking about how to implement these providers (google & yandex). Some results can already be expected in the current quarter.

Really, mobile app can be a very profitable solution for logistic company. Take a look at https://erminesoft.com/why-does-a-logis … obile-app/

Hi

While working with Logistics there is some difficulties using it because of UI. In our country we have many problems in addresses and we have to choose points from map. there is not enough space for map in Logistics UI. I think it would be more convenient if you redesign UI. As an example you can reduce left side panel dimensions.
Other partners please share their opinions...

Hello

Many of our clients have proposed an idea that in downloaded reports (Excel, PDF etc.) would be good if there is a (maybe even temporary) link to the order's attachments like drivers' taken pictures or signatures. Similar like in online reports when clicking on a paperclip icon the link appears.

Thank you for proposal. Add to the product backlog.