APP "driving logbook" for EU-Taxmen

Hi Aliaksandr,

we solved this just by special firmware which does not send any data to wialon if private mode was enabled.
problem here is that no data = no driving logbook... but for driving logbook of cause we need start and stop with odometer...
so personaly i did not find a practical solution for this exept if there would be something like:

define a sensor with flag "private mode switch". if wialon gets a message with this sensor = on, wialon calculates still internaly the odometer values but just not saves the data.  arghhh, i also dont know what would be the best... need to think about it...

maybe some other guys here have same same problem?

Wolf.

I propose next solution for private/business info:

We will introduce new sensor: "Private trip" that will be used for detection of private/business trips. In business(&undefined) trips Logbook will show info as it is now. For trips with activated private switch, all entries will just show the date & mileag.

Will it help?

Also we can optionally add auto-information form POI/geofences in visited Customer info.

Hello Shal,
we would also need the solution for new sensor “ Private trip”. It is very good idea. Currently for record of personal/business drive we are using digital input of GPS tracker that by the notification “Sensor value – Register units status” automatically write in application Driving Logbook as Trip status.
The problem is that in this solution are to Trip status written also other registered events like crossing of state boarders that are managed by geofence notification.

okido, "Private mode" sensor we will do before CeBIT.

I will post you reply later.

How about a button to automatically fill Notes with geofences/POI names avaible to user? e.g. if anybody is storing there customers information, to minimize manual entering. Will it be usefull for somebody?

Private trips will be selected automatically by sensor, and cant be modified manually. How with home/office drive?

home-office is a private trip by sensor or not?

Hi Shal,

if home-office-home can be organised by sensor that would be more cool (Tom Tom is doing that with a 3 button solution, 1 button = business, 2nd button private, 3rd button = home-office-home

in germany the home-office-home MUST be always one trip but i cant say for sure how it is in other counties...

Wolf.

Hello Shal,
I would like to ask you if it is possible to add into application Driving logbook (or to reports) information about crossing of borders.
Basically we need to give our customers information about when and where their vehicle cross the borders.
It is due to legislative reasons because employer have to pay for foot during foreign business trips.
Thank you for answer.

Hello maan,
thank you for answer but we do not need to know when the driver started from initial position of one country and when he end the trip in the foreign country, or how many hours driver spent in single countries.
We need to know when he crossed the boarders of single foreign countries. According to these information are calculated business trip costs in our country. We have this rule in our country according to our law:
- during the business trip that start and end in Slovak republic is determinig for calculation of travel costs  time of crossing the state boarders.

If driver drives the vehicle without stop then we can see in reports and also in Driving Logbook application only start and end of the trip but not the time of crossing the single state boarders (see attachment "Trip 1").
We already have created geofences for the countries to which our customers are traveling and currently we are trying to solve it using notification (entry a exit from geofence – Register unit status).
Unfortunately this solution is complicated, not working always and sometime it is mixed up in Driving Logbook application in column "Trip status" with business / private drives.
Thank you in advance for help.

We have the same here in Germany: "employe" can get a "expenses" money for each day he does business trips and they depend of each country you are visiting. But i think that "driving logbook" would be the wrong place to solve this kind of reporting as "business trips calculation" regarding expenses and everything else is a very complex theme and for sure cant be solved with driving logbook.

Just create geofence report with marked "country" geofences and you get with one click the exact times the driver has spent in each country.

Wolf

Hello Shal,
you are right that we do not need so much the information about crossing the state borders in the Logbook application. We need it mainly in the Reports due to export of data to CSV format in which the state borders crossing would be written. Most of our customers use external applications for calculation of business trip costs for single drivers and according to countries in which they were.  Therefore we need to know (and have record) where and when (place and time) the driver crossed the state borders.

We accept that Logbook application is not suitable for this. But we are trying to find some solution how to meet requirements of our customers.
In any case we are thankful for any answer.