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Teltonika FM4200

Тема: Teltonika FM4200

I created a test account for wialon program and i use a Teltonika device type 4200. My problem is that the device does not communicate with the server and device always appears offline. For setting the device i use data from this page:
http://gurtam.com/en/products/datacente … ?id=fm4200

Does anyone have any idea why it does not work?
P.S. my SIM card don't have a SMS or voice plan only TCP data plan it's available.

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Re: Teltonika FM4200

kazacy
Are you sure that controller does not communicate with server? Can you see any messages from unit in Messages mode? Controllers from Teltonika break TCP-session as they finish transmitting data, that is why controller appears offline. Transmission time is very short, and unit status remains "offline". If all settings are correct, you must receive messages from your unit.

WDC Administrator
Gurtam
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hi bako,
i need sms notifications on my cell phone. i m in lahore pakistan, can i get this service by paying some amount? also you said that fm 4200 comes online only for very short time and sending commands is not possible. I have tried to send commands even when my unit is online, but command sending fails and message "error executing command" appears. is there any paid service by which i can send commands and get notification sms on cell phone?

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Teltonika FM4200

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mani943, you need to buy SMS message package for Wialon Hosting. Then u r able to send messages either to device nor to your cell phone.

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(30/04/2011 21:45:17 отредактировано mani943)

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shal thanks for your reply.I am using the trail of gurtam to test teltonika FM 4200. I am facing the following problems.
1-The email i got from gurtam clearly says that I can receive email & SMS notifications during test period. However, i am getting only the emails, not the sms. Whats wrong?

2-The commands available are not working. And i guess they will not work even if i can send sms to my device beacause the standard commands are not specified for FM4200, they are just generic one . the commands are different for FM4200 as compared to available and programmed in gurtam. like if you want to get position of ur device, gurtam's  text is "query_pos" while FM4200 uses "getgps". I have even tried to use command allias in unit setting to create custom commands but there too, i cant create command of my own choice.

How can i send "getgps" command to my device?

3-I have connected the ignition alret to device input. iget alert whenever ACC is ON. how can i set my device to get the ignition alert (not ACC)

Please any body guide me how to edit standard commands?

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Hello,

I use teltonika FM4200
I receive the value from CAN register (ID FEE9 Total Fuel Used). This values is e.g 445730. But in "FMS-Standard Interface description" I found the information that I ought to multiply this value by 0.5 to get correct result. Could you tell me how can I do it, please?
I try with Calculation table but I doesn't get any result. Could you tell me what parametrs I must write in X,a,b window and where can I find the results.

Thank you for your help.

Regards,
Martin

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hi. x=0; a=0.5; b=0; Result - sensor value.

Mobile Development
Gurtam
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Ok it's works thank you.

But now I have more complicated question. I need result y = 51200 / x.

It is Fuel economy (FEF2) CAN parametr.

I will be grateful for any advice.

Regards,
Martin

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Teltonika FM4200

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martin, only linear function is supported at that moment. You can only create approximate chart consisting from several pieces.

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It is very bad information...
We need that kind of functionality to achieve advantage in the market  sad
We need accurate results of fuel consumption - the approximate is not enough for us.

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Teltonika FM4200

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martin, sorry, you may try to use formula (const51200/_param-name_) in sensor parameter field.

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(21/06/2011 00:51:24 отредактировано martin)

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I checked the formula: const51200/_param-name_

It works great!

Thank you.

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Teltonika FM4200

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1. End of test period?
2. query_pos is generic name for request current tracker position for each device. Inside of query_pos each device have own implementation (e.g. getgps for teltonika). To create custom messages please read here: http://gurtam.com/en/docs/user-guide/de … nf-aliases

vbr, Pavel.

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Teltonika FM4200

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mani943
Pls explain more clearly p.3

Eduard Vald / GoGPS Service
www.gogps.eu
Skype: tivald.ee
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Teltonika FM4200

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bako пишет:

kazacy
Are you sure that controller does not communicate with server? Can you see any messages from unit in Messages mode? Controllers from Teltonika break TCP-session as they finish transmitting data, that is why controller appears offline. Transmission time is very short, and unit status remains "offline". If all settings are correct, you must receive messages from your unit.

Dear Bako,
I dont agree with ur statement that Teltonika FM4200 closes session very shortly. I see my unit always online.
See below status of my unit. even though my unit is online i am unable to send commands to my unit. why

Added after    3 minuts  35 seconds:

depa пишет:

1. End of test period?
2. query_pos is generic name for request current tracker position for each device. Inside of query_pos each device have own implementation (e.g. getgps for teltonika). To create custom messages please read here: http://gurtam.com/en/docs/user-guide/de … nf-aliases

vbr, Pavel.

depa

can you please send me the link again. link mentioned in your last post dont work.

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Teltonika FM4200

Re: Teltonika FM4200

Remember guys that Teltonika has and issue with Position fix of GPS and the device not sending messages. unlike other devices Teltonika for some reason stops sending messages to server if it is not fix.



mani943 пишет:
bako пишет:

kazacy
Are you sure that controller does not communicate with server? Can you see any messages from unit in Messages mode? Controllers from Teltonika break TCP-session as they finish transmitting data, that is why controller appears offline. Transmission time is very short, and unit status remains "offline". If all settings are correct, you must receive messages from your unit.

Dear Bako,
I dont agree with ur statement that Teltonika FM4200 closes session very shortly. I see my unit always online.
See below status of my unit. even though my unit is online i am unable to send commands to my unit. why

Added after    3 minuts  35 seconds:

depa пишет:

1. End of test period?
2. query_pos is generic name for request current tracker position for each device. Inside of query_pos each device have own implementation (e.g. getgps for teltonika). To create custom messages please read here: http://gurtam.com/en/docs/user-guide/de … nf-aliases

vbr, Pavel.

depa

can you please send me the link again. link mentioned in your last post dont work.

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Teltonika FM4200

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here: http://docs.gurtam.com/en/hosting/cms/units/aliases

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Hi
I would like to hear if somebody else  have this problem with Teltonika.I have device driving and connecting to roaming networks that are not in allowed list.Configuration is made like in manual: 1 profile for home network ,2 for roaming and 3 for storage when it has no available networks.
Teltonika support are worst ever .

Thanks

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Teltonika FM4200

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aahero
Pls tell what is version of FM4200, also pls provide .xml file of config.

Eduard Vald / GoGPS Service
www.gogps.eu
Skype: tivald.ee
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(13/02/2012 12:27:53 отредактировано AlexHappay)

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Hi ,

Does any body tested GPRS commands with the FM4200? Do they work?

I tested sending a GPRS command "Send message to driver" on FM4200 but the device interprets it as a ping command. any idea why?

Here is a part of the output I get from the Terminal.exe tool provided by teltonika:

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]->>+NSORD: 0,52,"
-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-[SOCKET]->reading 52 bytes from server

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-[DATA.PROC.TCP]->COMMAND START

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-[DATA.PROC.TCP]->R_CRC: A318, C_CRC: A318

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-[DATA.PROC.TCP]->COMMAND RECEIVED

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-[COMMANDS]-> PING Recieved

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]->>

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]->>OK

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-<<AT+NSOWR=0,26


-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]->>

-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]->>@
-[2012.2.8 19:11:04]-<<_DATA_

-[2012.2.8 19:11:05]-[DATA.SEND.TCP]->Required amount of LOW Priority Records found: 2

-[2012.2.8 19:11:05]-[SORT]->Search Mode: Newest Record First

-[2012.2.8 19:11:06]-[DATA.SEND.TCP]->2 LOW Priority Records collected

-[2012.2.8 19:11:06]-[DATA.SEND.TCP]->Packing AVL Data...

-[2012.2.8 19:11:06]-[REC.READ]->Rec:412672 CRC OK

-[2012.2.8 19:11:06]-[REC.READ]->Rec:412544 CRC OK

-[2012.2.8 19:11:06]-[DATA.SEND.TCP]->Records Packed: 2. TCP/IP Packet Length:[75]

-[2012.2.8 19:11:07]->>

-[2012.2.8 19:11:07]->>+NSOWR: 0,26

-[2012.2.8 19:11:07]-[SOCKET]->26 bytes sent to server

-[2012.2.8 19:11:07]->>

-[2012.2.8 19:11:07]->>OK


Thanks.

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Teltonika FM4200

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have you tested sending a text message with your phone to see how the device reacts, if it accepts it correctly then the message send via GPRS should be accepted....

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Teltonika FM4200

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The command by phone work, but not by sending GPRS command using gurtam platform. any idea why?

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Teltonika FM4200

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GPRS commands for FM4200 is intended for communicating with Garmin navigator which connected to FM4200. Without Garmin connection this commands will not affect to anything.

Developer
flespi team
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Teltonika FM4200

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AlexHappay is correct on what he is saying

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Thank you for your inputs.

We have Garmin navigator but the command is not working as I said the FM4200 interprets it like a ping command see above the output from Teltonikas Terminal.exe tool.

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hello everyone,

I have a problem and no solution for it..
I use Teltonica FM4200 and i want to connect a mobile weighing device so that it sends data to FM 4200's RS232 port.
Teltonica sent me firmware for that but it's not working unless i insert a prefix (WT^W) in the data sequence that is sent from the weighing device.
The manufacturer of the weighing device is unable to do that at this moment while the people from teltonica seem unwilling to help or just don't want to help with the firmware modifications
which to me seem trivial.

Does anyone know if there is a some kind of device, with a  microcontroler that can be programmed to collect data from the weighing device, insert the prefix and pass ito to FM4200?

Please help and thank you in advance for you replies and effort.

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hi,


Do you already fixed this ? Otherwise we are maybe able to help

pls let me know

regards

Baltika

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Teltonika FM4200

Re: Teltonika FM4200

Hi Baltika,

Yes I still have the problem, thank you in advance for your help.

Alex,
Regards.

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hi,


I did send my contact details in your PM

regards

Baltika



AlexHappay пишет:

Hi Baltika,

Yes I still have the problem, thank you in advance for your help.

Alex,
Regards.

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(03/03/2012 13:10:13 отредактировано vijay2230)

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Respected Sir

I faced Problem to configure Teltonika 4200 Gps Device with my Tracking application.

i already set up the ip, port  no. and all related fields regarding Teltonika 4200 in FMXXXXX Configurator,after that Device Send IMEI NO TO MY APPLICATION SERVER PORT Which i set up into device.

But as mentioned in protocol mannual after getting IMEI NO. Server will reply to device 01 in binary format .
so i tried   01  ,  000001 and 00000001 as a reply to device but device disconnecd and again tie up connection with server and send IMEI NO and same my sever will send 01 as binary format,but again device disconnectd and this procedure repeat countinously again and again and i did not get any data from device.
i am sending youn protocol mannual and user mannual of device .please fine the attachment

so please it's humble request from my side,please rectify this issue as soon as possible

Thanks & Regards
jack dolphin

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О чём сие сообщение?

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please see under the comments from my support dept.....any comments are welcome of how anybody solved this
===========================================================================================================
The problem that we are been having with these devices is that we are not having GPS cordinates updates,but the devices are connected to GPRS network without GPS updates.

What we are doing is sending to the devices the command "cpureset" via SMS to restart the devices, after received this command the devices start working normally, but we think we can't stay doing this all the time.

We need your feedback to know what we have to do to solve this problem, attach you'll find the configuration file we are using for these devices.

=============================================================================================================

any help on the matter is welcome

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hi,

Dont see the xml file sad    pls send to my Skype ...later I will be online

gr
Baltika

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I am trying to test the CANBUS on Renault Kangoo (year > 2008), could you please help me on how to connect CANBUS on Renault Kangoo with the FM4200.

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(18/04/2012 10:24:56 отредактировано GoGPS)

Re: Teltonika FM4200

Without special converter no possible get data from passengers cars from can bus.
Some devices equiped with such reading interface, but fm4200 do not have it

Eduard Vald / GoGPS Service
www.gogps.eu
Skype: tivald.ee
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Teltonika FM4200

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Thank you very much for your answer.
Could you please advise an some converters that allows connecting FM4200 to a passengers car?

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you have to be very carefull on the protocol, please be advice that depending on the engine and manf you have different protocols, for big engines we have a standard J1939 protocol that is waht teltonika do, but for small cars most of them carry a different protocol, so you have just to find the rigth device that reads that protocol for example on the bottom you have some ecxamples, what you need is a OBDII ready device that will read 95% of almost all small cars


SO 15765-4 (CAN BUS) Renault, Citroen, Peugeot.
ISO 14230-4 (KWP2000) Grupo VAG, Audi,Volkswagen, Seat, Skoda
ISO 9141-2 (Key Word Protocol) vehículos Europeos, Asiáticos, Chrysler Mitsubishi, Nissan,Volvo, Dodge, Jeep.
J1850 VPW (Variable Pulse Width) , GM USA
J1850 PWM (Pulse Width Modulatión) Ford USA

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Teltonika FM4200

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Hello,

As far as I am concerned, the FM4200 device can be installed on trucks that have the FMS standard interface installed. However there are a lot of vehicles nowadays that dont have the FMS standard installed. Is there any possibility to use the FM4200 on vehicles without the fms interface?

Thank you very much in advance

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Teltonika FM4200

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I have the problem as AlexHappy did.

Could you please help me if you have resolved it.

Thanks in advance

Baltika пишет:

Hi,


I did send my contact details in your PM

regards

Baltika



AlexHappay пишет:

Hi Baltika,

Yes I still have the problem, thank you in advance for your help.

Alex,
Regards.