driving times in monitoring

Hello,
Easy, imagine your a a dispatcher controlling 40-60 trucks.

You are constantly controlling actual positions and getting orders to load trucks and delivery to your clients.

As you will know the law obligates to control truck driving times based on tacho. so the dispatcher can easily see which of his trucks can take the load and where can delivery as he counts also the hours to arrive to the client (1 hour - 3 hours - 30 min. far).

if the dispatcher must look this info by reports...forget it, wialon is not useful for them. I do not invent, I am having this real issue constantly that we cannot add good truck companies.

"Tata" has access to one account where you can see this detailed, if you want we can have conference call and I will show you.

thnks for interesting about this post

thanks

thanks

hi,

well.... now you have to spent much more time asking for a report for each of it.

In monitoring, I just directly see the position where it is and see this hours data.

I offer to show it in the dispatcher window as the majority of platforms has the tool like this and my clients request this option.

there are other ones who show it in the left panel + when clicking in the object in the map. Which is the best option by now.

of course, you could also filter like show "which objects have XXX hours free+ which do not have load+which are not stopped + which are with sensor Available...", but I think this would be more difficult to develop so I just not even thought about this...

if you give me your email please, and I will show you examples about this.

thanks

Hi dear Digital Tacho users...

we got complains that disponents can not see the first time of when a driver starts to work. We told them they can see it on reports, but they came and said: yes but on competitor xy we can see it in tooltip and / or in monitoring directly without using reports or so.
I told them about the problem of detecting "what is a start of work" and they said: Its easy: at midnight it must be resettet, first time that drivercard shows working status = first time of work. And if that is 00:00:00 or shortly behind that it means that driver startet to work yesterday and than they can look in reports.

So my request would be:

Add a function that automaticaly write in the monitoring/driver window a start time as the logic describes above.
Please see screenshot.
For vehicles not using drivercard and/or digital tacho i would recomend "first time vehicle is moving or ignition is on"... (based on trip detection).

Thanks
Wolf.

Hello geri ,

We have no solution for this functionality yet.
We will notify you if we have any news.

Thanks for support Wolf, i really need this tool to get truck companyes sector

hahaha, don t.

Give me your email and i will give you access to  TOm Tom if you want to prepare it easier....

Tom Tom sucks...but cosmeticly speaking is better in my opinion...

something I push always Gurtam to improve as it is 50% sales.!

bad thing, Tom tom makes them sign contracts for some years..

more active threat for this theme = https://forum.gurtam.com/viewtopic.php?id=12378

so admin maybe you can combine both threats

and i got today

"Hello Wolf,

I need to inform you that there are no news on any further development of the tacho solution, unfortunately."

from Gurtam.

Seems that European market is given up by Gurtam.
Sorry to see that :-(

Hello guys,
I support you 100%. I have been watching the post of locationGPS for one year. But nothing change to now. That is sad.:(

Praveenitch1, Wialon is the best you will find...with its fails but if you see deeper you will see the value of it.

We partners always will want more and more but after testing/working other platforms we must say Gurtam did great work!

Gurtam guys, do not get use to this...

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We analyze the task of a date and time of the first driver activity.

I found a lot of questions, but they have no answers.
Could you help me?
1. It may be useful to have the information about a date and time when a unit does not have an attached driver. Not only when a driver was bound to a unit. What do you think?

2. What information do we need to have on the monitoring page if the driver bound on the previous day and he still works?

3. What element should we take as a key element: a unit (and all that is associated with it), a driver or a user?

Please, give me your working cases as you will use this new feature.
Partners share your opinion.

locationGPS ,

Thank you for the answer. I read your previous topic, but now we analyze the idea to add a date and time of the first driver (unit) activity.

Do not be upset
We remember about your proposal to add driving times, stop times and km done during the day by route. But it is the tricky task, and we need more time for it.

Could you give me more information on the following questions:
- You wrote that you need to get a data during the day.
What is a day for you: It is 24 hours or it is a calendar day?
- I think you have a situation when drivers start to work at the night. So, if driver started to work at 10 p.m. and finished to work at the next day, when we would need to reset the data: driving times, stop times and km done?

Great, everything is clear and seems interesting. Thanks for your proposal.

wwbusch aka Buwo ,

Hi Wolf,
Sorry for being so slow with the answer.

Firstly, thanks for the additional information on this theme.

You have good ideas, and almost all of them are clear, but I need a small clarification for one point:
1) "Start of working":
You described a situation with a tacho. So, I need more detailed information how will we have to analyse this time ("Start of working") in different cases:
- if a driver does not have a minimum rest of 9 hours during last 24 hours.
- if we do not have a tacho.

When you give me all information, I will suggest you our solution for these ideas.

Hi Maksim,

i know that this is a problem as there are so many solutions on the road that does not have same HW as we use in "Europe".
I think we have 3 different situations:

1.) Vehicle has a digital tachograph and is in the EU driving --> we need to use the EU rules for this which means:
"A start of work = the first time the digital Tachograph switches to "Workmode" (there is a statusparameter that is 0,1,2 or 3, all above 0 = working mode) AFTER a UNINTERUPTED TIME OF 9 Hours in Mode0. I know, this works only if driver is using the same vehicle and not switching between vehicles. This (seldom) situation will not be solved. So lets think driver is always on the same vehicle.
To answer your first question: if driver had NO pause of 9 hours the working start time is again after the first pause of 9 hours. (i would set the search window to 24 hours. if he had no pause longer than 9 hours in last 24 hours i would write "unknown" or so.

2.) If there is no tacho we can use the standard schemes of Wialon, manual connection of driver to a vehicle and than i would use following algorithm:
"Working-Starttime= if vehicle changes location (trip detection) the first time after a pause of 9 hours in the last 24 hours where pause= vehicle is not moving". I think this algorithm has to be checked with other partners if it makes sence.

3.) No driverinfo: no working start :-))))

Wolf.

Hi guys,

I agree with all until now and I noticed that is lack of notifications in real time, about ending of driving work hours! Now it is only in monitoring, red color and number of minutes, but only when someone look on that. For big fleets it is inpossible to track it and to notice it to driver! I talking firstly on solution with tacho HW (but notification is also replicable for other versions).

Is it possible to add this in near future?

I notice that all truck companies has problem with monitoring working time, or to stop driving on time, and there is lot of solutions, but all are for reporting, no one for notifing, before problem occures, what can be sold very, very easy......one step for lot of vehicles. They are all waitting first solutions provider and as I know, international tracking companies in Europe is already going in that way and if they finish it fast they will collect most of truckes!

Thanks.
Sasa

Hi

Drivers activity/truck activity in monitoring panel is one of the most important point for most of truck companies. They need to see, in a few seconds, if their driver has already reached the timing drive or how many hours can still do today to decide if they assign the travel to this driver or to another

I think that if this info is only show when somebod puts mouse in the vehicle, the limit of 200 /min and IP will not be reached, but you have to think that a fleet manager with 40 trucks needs to do this about 100 times per day...easy functionality for this would be great...if not, they use reprt 100 times...so the load of your servers is the same but user see it as more complex to use.

Hello alexismr,

It seems that we can solve your problem right now.

When you indicate the checkbox "Driver's activity" in the User Settings dialog, information on driver activity will be displayed in the unit or driver tooltips as well as in the extended unit information.

Thank you for worrying about our servers

Hello!

The thing is that I am very interest in this new info..I am 11 years in the Fleet management market and only 2-3 % uses driving times.

Could you share with us what are the main interests of the 97 % of those clients???

Maybe all this years I was looking for the bad customers!

As an improve, Gurtam experience in so many different markets. it would be good to have a list of the main services we could offer clients.

from the most demanded to the less demanded:

I think, like this we can have 2 advantages...not losing time asking for a development...and ideas to sell as new services.

Like:

1.- Actual position
2.- track displayed
3.- Complain SW provider
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XXXX-´Driving times

Thanks

Hello guys,
I support you 100%. I have been watching the post of locationGPS for one year. But nothing change to now. That is sad.:(

Agreed 2.) as we do not have Tachograph like Europe does.

Primarily our transport and logistics customers are in real need to manage rest times within 24 hour periods. Government is cracking down and changing regulations for safety more and more.