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Tracking devices with GSM + Satellite module

Тема: Tracking devices with GSM + Satellite module

Hi everyone

I don't have any experience in working with devices with satellite module. I have informed that Iridium messages takes up to 10 minutes delay. We want to offer a customer a tracker with both GSM and satellite module and they want to use tracker in emergency cases. The customer need to know vehicle location with 30 seconds delay so device should send location every 30 seconds. satellite module should use in case of no GSM coverage. Any one can help us in this project? Can any one explain all satellite networks (Iridium, Inmarsat, and...) situations and limitations for better understanding? I though Iridium messages send to server in real time. I have to know more about these issues. Please help us...

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Iridium: SBD = Short Burst Data, but with two way = device knows if message was received by server.
SBD is limited and there are rules from Iridium how often you may send data.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iridium_C … burst_data

Globalstar: simplex short burst data where device tries to send 3x in 20 minutes the message. in my eyes not for emergency comm because you have no feedback.

Inmarsat: they have a gprs service and you can use it just as you like. Price per MB is at round about 20 USD, minimum increment as i remember 100KB, so each message costs you 2 USD (thats the reason why nobody use it for tracking)

Thuraya: in your region the system with the lowest costs. MB=round about 3 USD, minimum increment 100Kbyte. So costs per message = 0,3 USD

Hardware: http://www.m2mconnectivity.com.au/hardware/tracker

I dont know any Thuraya Tracker.

Best system in my eyes still Iridium based systems. They are just setting up new sattelites. Its backed by US government, even on international ships mandantory so they will survive for longer.

Globalstar is cheap and always just before bankrupcy.

P.S. if you want nearly real time tracking based on sattelites you need to take something like that:
http://www.m2mconnectivity.com.au/techn … -680-modem

of cause its just the modem and you need your tracker to communicate with that.
Ask Carlos from flexgps.net to help you with implementation, He has some experience with such projects.

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Wolfgang, Thanks you first. As i understood the best one is Iridium. We want to use Iridium based trackers integrated with Wialon not to use another modem beside a normal tracker. Based on your experience how much is latency on this case and in real not in theory.

For 2way communication Skywave/Orbcom is still the system with the lowest costs and the best technical parameters. At the moment i dont see any serious alternatives!
Globalstar is for kids (sorry, its just one way without any warranty that your data was received) and Inmarsat and direct iridium is much too expensive.

You wrote in https://forum.gurtam.com/search.php?sea … 1722778276

Would you please tell me about Skywave/Orbcom? I know that they use Inmarsat, What is difference? Please compare Iridium and Skywave/Orbcom.

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I think skywave changed something, as i remember they always used Iridium and no switched to Inmarsat new Data Sattelite
(https://www.orbcomm.com/en/hardware/dev … ve-idp-782)

but thats ok.

We saw a presentation of them in Minsk and talked with them, very innovative protocolls and HW.
Already implemented in the Wialon.

Ping kathleen.clifford at the skywave.com for more infos.

Wolf.
(delay should be less than 60 seconds)

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(26/01/2017 10:05:53 отредактировано hhamedk)

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I checked with them and we are in contact with them. they told me that they use Inmarsat! Please double check and clarify as i mixed up.
In short, for emergency cases as i explained which one is better? GalieoSky V4.0 with Iridium or Orbcom/Skywave IDP-782?

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Easier for sure its the Galileosky (config etc). I dont think that it makes any real difference.
Only you need to check for monthly contract costs. Skywave is cheaper for sure. (and Inmarsat is also fine, you just have bigger antenna!!!)

Wolf.

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